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I don’t know if any of you have seen this documentary. I always immediately dismissed those who claimed there was some sort of conspiracy associated with the events on 9/11. I felt they were wingnuts. But this is scary shit….and I tend to believe them now and I am someone always skeptical of conspiracies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkp-PXf_qlk&feature=related

It’s long therefore it’s in 6 parts


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The conspiracy theorists are wrong... search for 9/11 debunked - also check www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k


Tell me how agents planted demolitions on the floor the fires were raging from the plane collision.. because that's the floor that both building's collapse began on.  If you watch the collapse video it's easy to see the collapses sarted on the floors the planes crashed into (the ones that were on fire and therefore hard to plant demolition charges).

DC has been thoroughly debunked... it's funny how conspiracy theorests say a rocket did it, then ignore all the eyewitnesses who saw the plane fly into the building




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Exactly right John, they are very wrong. I watched Willie Nelson on Larry King (who I try never to watch) and Willie is about as big a wacko conspiracy theorist there is beside Alex Baldwin and he was going on and on how the Bush administration was involved in 911 and said "how do you explain the second tower falling" and Larry King replied "because a plane flew into it". Simply amazing how they overlook the facts that are right there in front of them. It's called Bush Derrangement Symdrome.


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I've never paid any attention to the whole conspiracy thing up till now....so maybe you can help me. Did they recover bodies that were on the aircraft that flew into the towers? We're they consistent with the passenger list?

Did the white house ever supply the information on why the believe Osama bin laden was behind the attack?



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How would they recover bodies in a fire that was hot enough to cremate the bodies??  Even people who were just inside those buildings when the planes flew into them they only found fragments of body parts and as far as I know some people who were confirmed in the building and dead never had any remains found.  Are you saying that the planes never flew into the building??  As far as I know given the video footage of the planes impacting that is not under dispute   I don't think after your plane crashes into a building with tank full of jet fuel then burns for an hour before a 100+ story building collapses on top of you you're going to find much in the way of remains  




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Honestly Joe, I never paid any attention to the conspiracy either nor do I know the answers to those questions. What I do believe is that al qaeda had a long time existing plan to carry out their attacks on America and did so. It is very well documented with records of their details, flight training, etc. Conspiracy theories IMO gain alot of attention because people always want to believe the extreme like Elvis is alive, JFK was shot by more than one person, crop circles, alien abductions and list goes on. This is of course just my opinion and I would like to see other responses to this as well.

BTW, great topic!




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Let's not forget history.

1. The U.S.S. Maine was never blown up by the Spanish but that didn't stop us from entering the Spanish American War. (It turns out the munitions were stored too close to the boilers and there was an explosion that sank the ship).

2. The Gulf of Tonkin incident is a well known lie now but that didn't stop us from entering the Vietnam war.

3. We also have good evidence to suggest that we knew the attack on Pearl harbor was coming.

4. We also now know why the Lusitania sank 90 seconds after the German's hit it with a torpedo.....it was loaded with munitions bound for Great Britain (when we were suppose to be a neutral country).

Our government has a long history of lieing to us to start a war. Our government has always been full of shit. Remember the whole country was founded by a bunch of slave owners that wanted to be free! LOL!



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Most of the conspiracy theories I've seen don't deny that al queda flew those planes into the buildings.  Their main point is they believe the goverment knew and then put in charges in the building to detonate, taking advantage of the attack to build fear.  I don't buy it but that's me... I have read debunks of all the conspiracy claims so those don't hold water with me.  Whether you believe the government knew I don't think can be proven or disproven.  I know I would not want to be in new york next year on the 10 year anniversary




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Well I agree 100% with you there Joe! I would damn sure not want to be in NY for that anniversary, that's for sure!!


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I think you guys might want to take a look at the video. They used the same video we all have seen.... but they've slowed it down.....and clearly you can see an extra piece on the bottom of the fuselage that is not consistent at all with a 757....but consistent with a military plane. Then there was a newscaster from fox that saw the second crash and clearly stated there were no windows on the plane (indicating it was not an airliner). Then there was also an eyewitness that you could plainly hear saying "that was no airliner, that was no airliner". Then there were the group of firemen that heard explosions consistent with imploding a building of tower 7.

I think you guys might want to take an honest look at this thing........remain skeptical but take an honest look at it.

If memory serves me correctly I also don't recall seeing any evidence released proving Bin Laden had anything to do with it. He also denied having anything to do with it....which is contrary to what terrorist usually do.....they like to take credit for the acts they commit because that further serves their purposes.



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