Afraid to use Minoxidil

And you can go through a shed on it too, but this thing is far superior to minoxidil

Welcome to regrowth.

I understand where you're coming from on the hesitation to use a temporary fix product such as minox. Know that almost all or all of MPB treatments are temporary if discontinued. I felt the same way as I watched my minox foam sit in my bathroom cabinet for a number of months before I decided I had to do something.

For some people minox is great and for others it's horrible. Unfortunatley, I fell into the latter category. By month four on Rogaine foam I had swelled up like a balloon and underwent an aggressive shed I never recovered from. My face looked like I had a leather complexion. It was so odd. I had to drop it.

If I had to do it all over again I'd choose to go with dr.proctor's Prox-n and Nano shampoo combo. His products use natural like minox substances without all the harsh side effects (minox is bad for the heart as well). Another option is sinere's as their product isn't supposed to have any systemic effects but I can not vouch for this. Overall it seems like a great product to me and it contains a number of great ingredients. Check out sinere.com

So there are a few options. If you feel you have scalp issues I highly suggest Grapefruit seed extract. Click under user JDP710 to pull up his informative posts regarding GFSE. Another option is Nizoral cream or shampoo. I've had some mild reults with nizoral. Get the scalp in good condition prior to attacking HL.

I've had some wierd sides recently on propecia so you prob made a great choice.

Overall, I'd recommend a laser device. Check out

Also, essential oils are great topicalas and side effect free for the most part w the exception of teat tree oil(if used in lq quantities)

Hope this helps.

I do all of the following: 1mg Finasteride, Revivogen at hair line at night, Super Zix II twice a day, Nioxin System 2 Shampoo crap, Coconut Oil prewash conditioner, swapped the shower head for filtered version, a whole lot of supplements, eat healthy (avoiding refined sugars and heated unsaturated oils), and LASER HELMET 3 times a week.

I honestly have not seen significant regrowth or can even guarantee myself maintenance (there is no doubt all of this has slowed the progress, but it is possible it is still slowly getting worse).

AND I CAUGHT MY HAIR LOSS PRETTY EARLY!!

If I can do all of that and not be assured success, then telling someone "get a laser helmet and your problems are solved" ain't the truth.

That all being said, I think lasers are a good treatment (not MIRACLE treatment as people would have you believe) that should be in everybody's regimen.

I don't think that I'm overstating lasers period.

Never did I mention anything near this-"get a laser helmet and your problems are solved"

I'm not saying lasers are a cure all based on thier results per se, rather for the results vs sides ratio(zero AFAIK)-there is no comparison IMO and for that reason they cannot be overstated. It's simple really.

I too have experience with the poisons and I hate them. What kind of helmet are you using btw? Also, I did'nt see results from lasers until month 6 but it seemed month after month the results were multiplying at an exponential rate.

edit-If you look at the OP this guy seems concerned about negative sides hence the natural suggestion

I'm not overstating *anything* about laser therapy... it's a god damn miracle . Nothing stopped my hair loss before. Lasers did -and if that's not a miracle to you, well... I'm sorry. I have more hair now that I did 15 1/2 months before I started it -and I haven't had a 15 1/2 month period where I've had MORE HAIR at the end of it since I was an INFANT. Once again... Miracle.

I'm sure I've had a 15 1/2 month period when I've lost a half an inch of hairline, though... when I was on minox and propecia.

ButPerga... I'm telling you, you'd probably be better off not doing all that other crap. I think those sort of things -like revivogen and zix together- could be making matters worse. The people that get great laser results -like me- seem to also be the ones that are keeping it pretty simple. I promise you... five years from now you are going to think that putting revivogen on your hair line at night was pretty fucking stupid.

No offense -I spent a decade doing crap just like that- but it sounds retarded to me now, and it *is* a waste of time and money, and I'd take the bet that all of that stuff together is making things worse than they would be, even if you would fight that they aren't right now.

seh6183...

I really think that minox really doesn't do people favors. Since yesterday, I've really finally made up my mind that the stuff is frankly trouble, and I'm going to make sure that people know my opinion on it. Minox is the stuff of BROKEN DREAMS! lol...

Great job on the marketing and forum control, though, "minox guys"! Top notch work on painting an imaginary picture!

People *do* get results with it -but it's not a significant number, and like I said in a previous post in a thread that I think is still current... one day you will have to "pay the piper", and believe it or not, in five or ten years you will still care about your hair like you do today.

-O.M.G.

You can make a "moveable cluster" design though for like $250, and move it into several zones -which is what my original helmet did- and that should be enough to convince you that it works, and that might be enough to keep you happy.

I don't know anything about Nioxin, though! Shampoos are SO PERSONAL... one personal can love a brand, and one person can hate it!

-O.M.G.