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revolt65
Regrowth.com Member Registered: Jul 2007 Posts: 9 |
Avodart-dutasteride After much research, it seems this was suppose to be the next big thing. Best of all, it had been targeted with a possible release date of 2006 to treat hair loss?Whatever happened to this drug? The only information I can find is phase 3 trials were suppose to begin, but I can't find any info concerning it actually happening. However it has been approved to treat prostate problems. Has anybody taken this yet and noticed benefits concerning hair loss?
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7/16/2007 12:58
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deejac
Regrowth.com Member Registered: Nov 2006 Posts: 496 |
its being used by many such as myself with decent success.never used the "real hair loss drugs like propecia so i dont know if its better but im stopped shedding completely.
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7/16/2007 9:11
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creep
Regrowth.com Member Registered: May 2007 Posts: 842 |
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7/16/2007 6:58
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creep
Regrowth.com Member Registered: May 2007 Posts: 842 |
Avodart is a good example of “off-label” prescription use. The company does the initial FDA trials and sees good enough results to start the “buzz”. They then discontinue for various stated reasons, but in reality they never wanted to do the full trials as it is expensive and, more important, the next series of trials may expose significant health problems when used for hair loss. Next, you have a bunch of “viral” marketers hitting magazines and forums pumping up its reputation based upon the initial trial buzz. Pretty soon the drug company is seeing many addition sales of the drug in the “off-label” market. This makes great business sense as you reduce initial costs and then get additional revenue from a drug that is already making money treating another disease. Viral advertising is a steal compared to legit practices and highly effective. I can’t remember where, but I read great article on the sale of drugs for other uses. This is a huge market and it’s legitimacy is questionable. We had a few of these viral marketers here on regrowth and every once in awhile another will crawl out from their hole in the ground and stop by for some shilling. But hey, really, I’m just guessing. creep
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7/16/2007 6:58
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MaDmaX.
Regrowth.com Member Registered: Nov 2001 Posts: 30 |
revolt65 Avodart works well for some people. eg... http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?t=30083 http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=70342&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE= Personally , i dropped Propecia 7 months ago, tried the natural stuff and my hair is gone to the crapper !! Started Avodart, only few weeks so to early to say. I have no sides so i cannot comment on poeple who do.
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7/16/2007 7:14
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deejac
Regrowth.com Member Registered: Nov 2006 Posts: 496 |
creep,you can have your suspicions that i really cant see where they could come from other than an active imagination(no facts to back them up)but while we are on the topic of facts,the facts are that during the first and second stage trials for testing avodart for hairloss,it was proven(this is one of those facts i was talking about)proven to be almost twice as effective as propecia when used in a large enough dose.that said most forum posters dont use that high of a dose and use the reccomended dose for prostate(.5mg once a day)and this was shown to grow about 20 percent more hair than propecia and grow at a faster rate. these are fda facts that cant be disputed and the actual reason glaxo never went ahead with the final go ahead and market it as a hairloss drug was because they figured with propecia already out and since it is only 20 percent more effective but 3 times more expencive,not to mention that before the second trial was complete there was at least 3 indian pharma compainies making generic versions and planning on marketing them for around 25 percent of the US PRICE avodart sells for(plus you cant use insurance on a hairloss drug but you can for a prostate one),it would be finantial suicide to spend the millions to get fda approval on a drug that they saw would not sell based on the reasons i already gave. now none of these reasons mention effectivness and actually the internet users results basically reflect the results of the avodart hairloss trials(works a little better than propecia,cost a lot more,and has higher side effect risk(slight) now i have been using avodart for(i really lost count)but id have to guess a year and i am happy with it.never used propecia so i dont know how happy i am but it works for sure and if you believe that dht has anything to do with hairloss,then avodart should be considered since propecia only reduces scalp dht by i believe close to 50 percent compared to avodarts 85 percent or close to it.also it lowers serum dht by nearly 95 percent.nothing else does this so this surly should explain why its the best selling hairloss drug currently on the internet(based on several overseas sites)and it has been this case for well over 3 years. if the drug was not effective it would not be selling so damn well,when i mean sell im talking about the indian generics and not the "real"version although chemically they are exactly the same.
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7/17/2007 1:15
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deejac
Regrowth.com Member Registered: Nov 2006 Posts: 496 |
oh i forget to mention that avodart is also special because it prevents the formation of not one(like propecia)but both types of dht(the only drug currently on the market that does so. is this the reason its so much more effective than propecia??? who knows? i told myself that i would use avodart for 6 months and if it worked id use it another 6,then if i was happy with the density,i would switch to propecia for cost and side effect reasons and try to use it to maintain what i achieved on avodart. i have since changed my plan since i have no side effects to speak of,and its price is very cheap now that i buy overseas. my new plan is now at one year just lower my dose and try to maintain.im just too happy with avodart to quit especially when i have no side effects or other reason to risk all that i have achieved.
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7/17/2007 1:22
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deejac
Regrowth.com Member Registered: Nov 2006 Posts: 496 |
but then again,avodart could just be paying me to say this and i may be one of those"viral marketers"(whatever that means)and im trying to make a mint for glaxo even though i mention in both my posts that avodart is available in the exact same formula with the exact same results when you dont buy from glaxo but rather seek your meds from overseas source.(like i do and claim overseas versions of avodart are equally effective at about 75 percent the savings)
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7/17/2007 1:26
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creep
Regrowth.com Member Registered: May 2007 Posts: 842 |
I'll repost my final paragraph just for you. "But hey, really, I’m just guessing." But don't kid yourself that "off-label" marketing is not a huge money maker for some drug companies. In fact nothing you said negates this fact. And yes you do sound like a corporate apologist even if you really don’t know about viral marketing (as if). creep
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7/17/2007 3:59
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