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Chris2b
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question on applying minoxidil

Dumb question maybe, Ive used minoxidil for about two years now and I have always been confused on how to apply it. I just rub it into my temples where I'm trying to regrow hair. Should I also be applying it past my hairline where my hair exists?? I don't really have much thinning so I never applied it there, also will this cause massive shedding?? I've always been hesitant to applying it in with my hair.

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Graeme Australia
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You should apply it everywhere so that hold of all your hair.First it the front and then it's the crown before you know it.

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Big Si
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Re: question on applying minoxidil

Chris2b said: Dumb question maybe, Ive used minoxidil for about two years now and I have always been confused on how to apply it. I just rub it into my temples where I'm trying to regrow hair. Should I also be applying it past my hairline where my hair exists?? I don't really have much thinning so I never applied it there, also will this cause massive shedding?? I've always been hesitant to applying it in with my hair.

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Big Si
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I would think carefully before applying minox to so far unaffected areas. Minox will cause shedding, but is it likeley to restore hair to its current quality? Basically its all about keeping the hair we have as long as we can and trying to stailise and regrow what is already thinning. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Wait till it starts to thin and then start when you have nothing to lose, instead get on nizoral shampoo and maybe finasteride, these won't cause sheds and may help you maintain what you have. Good luck bro.

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ExperiencedHairlossGuy
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Hey Big Si,

Are you saying that if minox was applied to an unaffected area, the hair there would would become dependant on minox and after the initial shedding would return but with lower quality? If that is what you're saying please could you let me know where you discovered this as it goes completely against my understanding of the interaction between MPB and Minox.

Cheers

EHG

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Graeme Australia
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why start taking finasteride now because then he will be shit scared to stop thinking will i be bald in 12 months.Do as much as you can with Rogain before taking finasteride and then think about it.Finasteride is the last thing you want to be using if Rogain is working for you.The less shit drugs we put in our body the better will be.Propecia is good but do everything before using it.He might hold onto his hair until he is 40 not everyone goes bald at the same speed.

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Big Si
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Hey guys glad to see you found my last post interesting, I'm going to reply to both of you in this post, I'm not being lazy just practical. Ok, first of all it is my understanding that it is generally accepted among users and trichologists that minox does cause shedding at the start of treatment, this is normally explained by "dead" hairs falling out to be replaced by new stronger hairs, it is also noted that minoxidil is a growth stimulant (that relies on opening potassium channels in cell membranes in the hair follicle) and that its main attributes are actually in decelerating hairloss count. It is also my understanding that most peoples clinical experiences with minox were in fact a decrease in hairloss rather than thick full hair, consistent with the users original quality. So basically if minox is likely to stimulate sheds that don't necessarily grow back as well, then use it for its decreasing hair loss ability on areas that already show mpb, rather than on areas that are not yet affected. I don't recall using the word "addicted" EHG, but its interesting you should mention it, as 2 different trichologists have used that term in discussion with me, I wonder if you have heard this also? And Graeme, your absolutely right, he might not lose is hair untill he's 40, all the more reason not to use a hair stimulant that could exacerbate the problem, when a dht inhibitor could stop/slow down the dht production and binding that leads to mpb, before a stimulant is needed. Of course your comment about finasteride and side effects is relevant, but this is a matter of choice and if the side effects are bad, like I know you have experienced then yes, it is a good idea to think about priorities,(health v hairloss). However lets not forget that minox is actually a treatment for hypertension and can have sides (although not as severe) all of its own. Basically there are various routes we can try, we are all looking to solve the same problem, to exchange ideas and help each other, its important to give people all the details to let them choose for themselves.

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ExperiencedHairlossGuy
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Hey Big Si,

Thanks for your reply! I'll try to give feedback on each of the points you made, I'll write in capitals to make it obvious (I know it will look like I'm shouting, but I'm not ;-) )

1. Ok, first of all it is my understanding that it is generally accepted among users and trichologists that minox does cause shedding at the start of treatment

1. AGREED

2. this is normally explained by "dead" hairs falling out to be replaced by new stronger hairs

2. THIS IS TRUE. IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THERE WILL BE A FAR HIGHER % OF DEAD HAIRS IN AN AREA WHICH IS AFFECTED BY MPB THAN IN AN AREA WHICH IS UNAFFECTED BY MPB, THIS IS BECAUSE MPB CAUSES HAIRS TO STAY IN THE RESTING PHASE FOR LONGER. SO HENCE IF THE UNAFFECTED AREA WERE TO BE TREATED THE SHEDDING WOULD BE FAR LESS COSMETICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

3. it is also noted that minoxidil is a growth stimulant (that relies on opening potassium channels in cell membranes in the hair follicle) and that its main attributes are actually in decelerating hairloss count

3. LIKE YOU SAY, MINOX DOES DECELERATE HAIRLOSS; ALSO IN SOME PEOPLE IT STIMULATES NEW HAIR GROWTH. THOSE MOST LIKELY TO GROW MORE HAIR ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ON AVERAGE YOUNGER AND IN THE EARLIER STAGES OF MPB; HENCE IF AN UNAFFECTED AREA OF THE SCALP WERE TO BE TREATED THERE WOULD BE A HIGH PROBABILITY OF NEW HAIR GROWTH.

4. It is also my understanding that most peoples clinical experiences with minox were in fact a decrease in hairloss rather than thick full hair, consistent with the users original quality.

4. TRUE, THIS IS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN USED ON BALDING PEOPLE WHO'S FOLLICLES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DAMAGED. IF YOU USED IT ON PEOPLE WITH FULL HEADS OF HAIR I'M SURE THEIR HAIR WOULD GET THICKER. I'VE HEARD OF GUYS USING IT TO MAKE THEIR BEARDS THICKER.

5. I don't recall using the word "addicted" EHG, but its interesting you should mention it,

5. NOR DO I, I DIDN'T MENTION IT EITHER!

So my conclusion is that if someone were to apply minox to an area of their scalp which was unaffected by MPB the hair there wouldn't get thinner or decrease in quality, in all probability minox would have the opposite effect on it. Not many people will want to do this, but there will be some people who are unsure if a certain area of their scalp will soon be affected by MPB and might want to use minox there too just for safety.

Damn...I should be writing my dissertation...the wonders of procrastination! :-)

Cheers

EHG

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Big Si
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EHG, I've read with interest your reply and firstly your quite right you didn't use te word addicted, I think it was dependent you mentioned, but let's not split hairs about it, so to speak. They are interesting points you make about the treatment of so far as yet unaffected areas responding succesfully to pre emptive minox use. In theory this should work, however I'm not sure it always does.

This is slightly subjective, as this has been my own experience, but I do normally rely on other sources of information before coming to some sort of conclusion and this has been the case here. I also think if minox was that succesful in practice as well as in theory then there would'nt be as many disillusioned users, or any other hair restoration products! I do appreciate that everyone responds differently to various treatments and if people respond well then that is really great for them. I still feel though that minox is most useful on areas already affected and maybe the faith in this treatment is misplaced, of course I might be wrong, but as its not guaranteed to prove this theory right, and may very well increase haircount loss without suficient replacement I stand by my original point. It's not worth the risk. The way I see it is that we would all rather not use products and keep our original hair, thats why I think a product that might increase the problem without guaranteeing results is best used when its needed and not pre emptive.

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