HAIR PROTECTION SYSTEM

SERUM DAY 1 TO 4 / 40 ml 43011 41.10 CHF

SERUM DAY 5 TO 14 / 60 ml 43012 36.40 CHF

KIT / 40 ml + 60 ml 43010 64.40 CHF

This prices could be changed (+/-1-3%)

Email them at info@unicos.ch and have this in the message: ""Hair Loss forum poster here..Premium service code requested" ...and they will provide the password and login for access to special prices.

http://www.swiss-cosmeceuticals.com/hairset.html

Info on Dermatopoientin:

"DERMATOPOIETIN® activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha from the upper layer of epidermis. These growth factors are sensed by the neighbor cells and induce global tissue remodeling process including skin cells proliferation and migration as well as controlled synthesis or degradation of extracellular matrix.

"DERMATOPOIETIN® does not deliver any functional components into the skin. It rather acts by triggering the tissue’s own regenerative abilities. As a result the process of cell regeneration starts off on the skin surface and unfolds its action in the deeper layer of the epidermis. In response to DERMATOPOIETIN® skin cells carry out a complex process of tissue remodeling that finally leads to skin rejuvenation."

http://www.dermatopoietin.ch/index.html

"DERMATOPOIETINTM is a 159 amino acid long polypeptide. It is constantly produced by skin almost exclusively onto the stratum corneum (upper skin layer) of the human epidermis. DERMATOPOIETINTM serves as an autocrine factor that initiates a cascade of events directed to deeper layers of skin. Activation of cell growth signaling cascade DERMATOPOIETINTM activates genes encoding growth factors such as keratinocyte growth factor (KGF)1-3, hepatocytes growth factor (HGF)1, granulocytemacrophage growth factor (GM-CSF)4, and transforming growth factor-alpha (TGF-alpha)5. These growth factors, in turn, initiate a cascade of events leading to fibroblast and keratinocyte proliferation, keratinocyte migration6,7, and entire skin renewal.

"DERMATOPOIETINTM suppress expression of connective tissue growth factor (CTGF), a major fibrogenic factor responsible for excessive scarring or keloid formation through promoting proliferation and collagen synthesis of mesenchymal cells12"

http://www.even-swiss.ch/docs/presentationp.pdf

Will try to get the other this week. It's the 1-4 day one of course that has the Dermatopoietin etc ingreds.

MG63...trying to get answers on the other forum regarding that and other things.

That's all I can find on the bottle and box.

I've had my first downhill shed (I guess you could call it that) since late July. It's the worst my hair has looked since starting minoxidil in the 1982-3 years. I'm doing so much stuff right now ... I won't be a great determiner as to whether this works ... if things get better in 4-9 months ... it could be Ell Cranell, Res/curcumin, Soy Isoflavones/Cayenne, PM, name brand Proscar, Spectral, Andenosine, Fluridil, Flutamide, Spiro ... tons of supplements ... MSM, green tea, taurine, zinc, COQ-10, ZMA, lysine ..etc.

I've HALTED Dutastiride for now ... cold turkey ... I may try it again ... name brand ... once or twice a week in a few weeks ...???

and I'm taking Lypo-spheric Vitamin C and Glutathione ... but not really for hair growth... just for health.

Everything I do ... I do religiously ... so we'll see. It just seems minox foam, proscar, dut and nizoral gave up on me after years of fighting and working 'fairly' well ... sometimes 'really' well.

When you said above..so far so good...did that mean you're seeing some slowing down of the shedding? Or just that you weren't getting any negative reactions to the product..etc.

So yes, I meant no bad reactions.... cosmetically nice ... which doesn't really matter since I put in on at night ... tomorrow I'll start the other treatment ... but I'm not giving up my other topicals/internals so again ... I'm most likely not the best gauge of it's effectiveness.

Just used it for the first time..it is cosmetically nice. Smells good. Absorbs well.

You would think just the 1-4 day is all that would be needed though. I'm going to do at least a few kits first before deciding whether or not to just use the 1-4 or ?

From what I've been told you can just keep repeating the cycles. Each kit lasts for 2(more if you want to spread it out) 14 day cycles.

When I get some more clarification on this issue..I'll post it. Or maybe you'll get it before me.

On what to combo it with.....there are those 3 and then about 4 others...it doesn't make it easy with all the new products popping up lately. I was actually thinking of FNS when using the 5-14 day product..thought about using FNS instead. Had to try some newer things instead though.

And that's all the help you'll get from me 'cept I'll say I do use the Lamas product in the mornings still.

johnny b..you have to do a wire transfer. I gave the info in that thread. They may be making it w/out alcohol or less alcohol...and adding some other goodies, but I have no idea what the timeline for that is. Same for it being sold in the USA etc. Results? Hard to say since I started the Lamas product long before the hGH.. and then the DermaP product..but whatever is working is working pretty good so far. Obviously I'd like to stick with things for awhile longer. I just hope these new hairs stick around.

To get the Pristeen product you have to contact them at dahlkyun at regeron dot com

I want to get just the 4 day thing but my special discount code only allows both to be purchased.

J, a D'G' is high praise in these parts but deserved; your efforts for the cause are well documented! - I've decided to go for the phyto product as it's more readily available here in the UK - I presume it's very similar to Lama's.

Is the discount still working that way? I never ordered just the 1-4 so wouldn't know.

Can I get the hair protection system from any US online outlets or does it have to be shipped directly from switzerland?

If so, any links?

HAIR PROTECTION SYSTEM

SERUM DAY 1 TO 4 / 40 ml 43011 41.10 CHF

SERUM DAY 5 TO 14 / 60 ml 43012 36.40 CHF

KIT / 40 ml + 60 ml 43010 64.40 CHF

This prices could be changed (+/-1-3%)

Email them at info@unicos.ch and have this in the message: "Hair Loss forum poster here..Premium service code requested" ...and they will provide the password and login for access to special prices.

http://www.swiss-cosmeceuticals.com/hairset.html

By the way, how have your results been so far? What do you think of the 5-14 day vials? Are they worth getting? They don't look like they have any real active ingredients in there. Should I maybe just save money stick with the 1-4 vials?

The 5-14 is good if you're not using anything else and/or want to use something that's easy to apply etc. I don't think it's necessary though..and the 1-4 is the one to make sure to get if you do order any.