Ive been in contact with the guy by email and i know these results were created by stem cell injection in the scalp and wont be available for a year or so but theyve created a Thymosin beta 4 analog which is supposed to be the most powerful aspect of TB4.This is what ive waited for for so long to be able to use this substance.They can formulate a topical cream with TB4-7 stable up to 1 year or longer in the refrigerator.58 dollard for 25 grams of cream.In the clinical studies people experienced hair regrowth from 10 mg injections every 2 weeks.This stuff is the most potent stem cell activator known.I believe itll blow the socks off apple stem cells.Not to mention the older studies with TB4 growing hair on nude mice better than anything comparable to PSI.I was a member of a group where some folks had good results after 1 month topical but we lost our supplier.That was only after 100 mg made into topical but was too expensive like $100 for 100 mg which would only last 1 month.I think i can make 25 grams last 1 month so 58/month...not bad......I hope someone else is interested in trying this as well.If so i can supply the pharmacist direct email

I don't think this is the same TB4 that you guys tried..you may recall the problems with getting the correct one(I was part of the group at one point).

If it were this easy to make the correct TB4 product in a cream..you'd think those with the patent rights would have done so by now.

Does it take a bit of time for them/him to get back to potential order customers?

Thanks.

Nobody is concerned with the lack of FDA analysis? Can anyone post up some study papers on this?

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2 How can we be quite sure actistem is really putting TB4-7 in the product ?

From what I have read, if the product is efficient, users will report that in 3-4 weeks as it is supposed to be very strong. But my concern is that they can put any other cheap dangerous component in the jar. Reading their web site it is obvious they try to make money with weak people.

I wish it could be tested independently ... like someone had RU tested here in the USA ...years ago ...the RU was from FaithEagle in China.

I would (as I did with the RU) contribute $$ to have it tested if it would put my mind at ease.

Does RU work ? Please let us know!

Thanks

http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-forums/viewthread.cfm?f=1&t=22210

As you said " Unbelievable for the first year or two….only maintained after that." Did you mean, Your hair regrowth in the first two years and stop lossing hair after that? Seem it quite work, but why you try new stuff rather than keep using existing product? I live in HK, very close to mainland china (ShenZhen), I may try RU later on if the product work. Would you please tell us how much per month and the best method to use RU powder? If compare with TB4-7 which you recommend? P.S. Poor me, I am one of those weak people the MAT mention as well.

Alexxx

I contact with FaithEagle for RU58841 , following were what they said: "Would have a new batch in early-March, so please kindly contact us again in early-Feb. for prepaying and shipping details then" What I can do is just wait ...

Alexxx

Ahaha, they have not tested this product for anything, like side effects or efficiency. This product has no agreement as cosmetic or anything else, it can be dangerous to apply and more dangerous to use with a dermaroller...

I would have very little concern with TB4 check out the current clinical studies and there uses. There is only a concern if there is a tumor formation all ready there it will speed up the process same for many other products.

Thanks for your prompt report. Please report even reduce hair loss. So Hairwinstherace did you give up RU 58841 and using TB4-7 instead, or you use both each time?

Alexxx

Did anyone stop hairloss after trying TB4-7???

No judgement so far.... nothing negative to report.

now im glad i found it because it allowed me to find something that works, but its just sad that after 7 years, people are still trying and failing with the same crap and so many think what they are trying is new... also, i know a lot of you guys must be getting down because sites like these may make it seem like nothing works but at least with my case(and i always assumed most) that when you find something that works, you no longer have a reason to frequent this or similar sites so the only people we hear from, are those posting the same" no response posts" or those looking for something because they have found nothing that works....please, please, please dont let these people get you down, it took some time but i found what works for me and when you do, you will no longer post....

but the real reason im posting on this topic is because im curious why no one is considering getting the substance in question, and just giving yourself scalp injections yourself or have someone help you? why search so hard to find a cream and question the creams effectivness when there is proof that at least when injected, it works well??

if i could get what was used in these studies i would have no problem self injecting. even a dermaroller would be inferior to a good subcutanious injection to the troubled area.

anyway, maybe im crazy, but if something works , why try and fix it...if monthly injections would give me hair like in those photos( well honestly my hair is currently better, but we all could use more hair especially in the hairline like in my case) i would take them with a huge smile...is the prospect of monthly injections worse that the puffy face from minox, limp dick from propecia, or any other side effect or even if you have no sides, its still a pain in the ass to apply all this crap or sit under a laser for an hour every other day....injections are the way to go...just point me in the direction and ill experiment myself and post photos.

at least that was my logic for not going too big when i made my helmet and its working well.

now keep in mind working well is relative and it all depends on your severity and what you should expect...without surgery, one should expect to maintain with slight regrowth with what i mentioned....i personally know people who have regrow almost their entire heads (they were like norwood 3s) but those people are far and between.

i think im a good example of what to expect from what i am using and just want to add, i did have a small strip graft done 3 years ago on my hairline because lets face it, nothing works there..

im currently happy with my hair, except i would like it a little thicker....in the past 6 months i dumped the topic(and i loved that stuff) because i no longer need it...my hair is totally thick everywhere other than the slight recesssion in my temples...when i had the doctor do the grafts i told him to be conservative because i didnt want it to be too noticable...like i said before, my hair and hairline is similar to jude laws in the movie AI.....considering he was a sex symbol in that movie, im not to unsatisfied...im going back to india for another 1000 grafts and they i think i will be done for ever...i only came back to this site after 2 years of being satisfied because i just inherited money from an aunt, i wont get it for 4 months and when i do i will make my appointment for my additional 1000 grafts, but i figured since i had 4 months to play with, why not try and come back and see if you guys came up with something new or crazy, because short of ru58841, i think i tried everything and nothing worked as well as avodart , a small transplant and lasers...plain and simple, thats what i use, i used everything else and nothing came close , but i gave it close to a year before i even compared photos and i think thats the trick, you will have shedding months and regrowth months but usually the regrowth months put you in a place where your hair was thicker before the previous shed...these meds throw your growth/shed cycle out of wack and it takes time for them to be in sink again.

thats my story and im sticking to it, lol....but seriously, if you are concerend about temple loss, dont waste your money unless its on an anti androgen that will prevent further loss because i have never, ever seen anyone in the 7 years of being on these sites, who regrew temple hair, i mean, sure, you see the occasional person who gets all excited that they are getting new peach fuzz, but the amount of growth needed to make a difference in your appearance can only , at least now, be achieved with a knife...if you cant afford it i can direct you to my doctor in india who did an amazing job at an amazing price...hes no hack, he travels to world teaching this stuff and invented his own technique to close an incision where you have no scar...i fade my hair in the back with a very short attachment and noone ever noticed my scar, my barbed once asked if i fell off my bike as a kid because he saw a small scar...nothing close to the frakenstein scars i have seen on some.

anyway, whatever you choose , good luck but give it a year because hair grows slow and new hairs are formed even slower.

Have you gotten any side effects from the duasteride? I am taking duasteride once a week along with finasteride every other day. Only been doing it for a week now though. I have been on finasteride for about 10 months now with minimal results.

I have used TB4-7 for a week twice a day, I used more than half of a jar, however nothing comes out, and even do not stop my hair loss. However, I will keep on using it and see.

Brothers, please keep report your condition, thank you in advance.

Alex

"Furthermore, thymosin beta 4 stimulates tumor growth and metastasis by induction of cell migration and vascular endothelial growth factor-mediated angiogenesis."

Hmmm. Hair growth, but cancer, too. No, thank you.

Over-expression of thymosin beta 4 promotes abnormal tooth development and stimulation of hair growth. Cha HJ , Philp D , Lee SH , Moon HS , Kleinman HK , Nakamura T Int J Dev Biol.2010 ; 54(1):135-40. PubMed

Who says there's no research into hair loss?

Where can we get generic version avodart? and how much is it ? Alex

I have been using TB4-7 cream for 2 weeks, no improvement and still keep losing hair. Honest speaking, do any one feel it work or produce some effect, please kindly let us know.

So, I've had gray hair start before I finished HS... I bought a couple jars after reading this thread...halfway through my 2nd jar....my gray hair is starting to return to its brown color...unreal. I haven't had to dye my hair. I'm shocked. As far as growth...I'm starting to see some small...very fine hairs appearing at the front of my scalp. I can't say yet for sure if they will fully develop, but it looks promising. I have no affiliation to these people...I just wanted to post in hopes of helping others... I will definitely update once I know for sure. I"m being cautious, but optimistic.

Good to hear (hair?). Keep us updated!

How many weeks have you been using it?

Hey man, I want to explain something. First off, sorry for thinking you may not be legit but we do get occational "drive by" posters who make a claim and never return but I am glad you did.

Also I did check your IP and all is good (just a routine thing). Thanks for posting and I removed my post above and want to welcome you to Regrowth!

As for my quick dismissal of the above treatment.. I need to do more research first but it just smells bad.. too many things are not right.

ActiStem™ decried as sham!

I've notified the TGA (Therapeutics Goods Association) of Australia (Advertising Claims Dept.) of his claim of manufacturing the goods in Australia out of a TGA approved premises. I'll post the email in the above thread when I get the reply via email.